Comments on: Getting Paid What You’re Worth: Don’t Put Your Skin the Game http://www.copywritingmaven.com/2007/01/26/getting-paid-what-youre-worth-dont-put-your-skin-the-game/ A copywriter shares tips, techniques, reviews & cranky commentary Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:47:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Robert Rosenthal http://www.copywritingmaven.com/2007/01/26/getting-paid-what-youre-worth-dont-put-your-skin-the-game/#comment-68 Robert Rosenthal Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:49:47 +0000 http://72.34.55.84/~maven07/?p=71#comment-68 Thanks for spreading the word, Roberta. Since you mentioned spec (ah, hell, let's call it what it is -- FREE work), I thought your readers would be interested in an earlier Freaking Marketing post called, "The Difference Between Prostitutes and Advertising People." Here's the link (readers will need to scroll): <a href="http://robertrosenthal.typepad.com/blog/2006/07/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://robertrosenthal.typepad.com/blog/2006/07/index.html</a> Thanks for spreading the word, Roberta. Since you mentioned spec (ah, hell, let’s call it what it is — FREE work), I thought your readers would be interested in an earlier Freaking Marketing post called, “The Difference Between Prostitutes and Advertising People.” Here’s the link (readers will need to scroll):

http://robertrosenthal.typepad.com/blog/2006/07/index.html

]]> By: Copywriting Maven http://www.copywritingmaven.com/2007/01/26/getting-paid-what-youre-worth-dont-put-your-skin-the-game/#comment-69 Copywriting Maven Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:46:55 +0000 http://72.34.55.84/~maven07/?p=71#comment-69 That's the major difference, Brian - control. The DM agency I worked for before opening MGP DIRECT (20 years ago this April) did a lot of "perfomance based" marketing for educational associations. But the agency controlled/paid for EVERYTHING associated with the mailing and took a large chunk of the revenue when it came in. (One promotion series I did performed so well, the client was begging to be let out of the contract and pay for it themselves.) But without the control? It's a "Wimpy" and a no-go for me. That’s the major difference, Brian - control. The DM agency I worked for before opening MGP DIRECT (20 years ago this April) did a lot of “perfomance based” marketing for educational associations. But the agency controlled/paid for EVERYTHING associated with the mailing and took a large chunk of the revenue when it came in. (One promotion series I did performed so well, the client was begging to be let out of the contract and pay for it themselves.)

But without the control? It’s a “Wimpy” and a no-go for me.

]]> By: Brian Clark http://www.copywritingmaven.com/2007/01/26/getting-paid-what-youre-worth-dont-put-your-skin-the-game/#comment-70 Brian Clark Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:40:35 +0000 http://72.34.55.84/~maven07/?p=71#comment-70 Well, yes and know. Never agree to this with some random client. But I've done $10,000 "jobs" that paid me six figures by making it into a joint venture. Of course, I controlled every part of the project, which is what you don't get to do with the typical company looking for talent. Well, yes and know. Never agree to this with some random client. But I’ve done $10,000 “jobs” that paid me six figures by making it into a joint venture. Of course, I controlled every part of the project, which is what you don’t get to do with the typical company looking for talent.

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