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	<title>Comments on: Hellbound: When Did Size 12 Become an XL?</title>
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		<title>By: Janet Sellers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am furious
When is someone going to do something about this
The average woman is a size 14 I am told and that looks very appealing on most women
I am a size 8-10 and I thought I look great and yet there are people out there who think i am fat
This is awful
Growing up I average model was the &quot;perfect size 8&quot; now even that is fat
So now we have a lot of nasty over sexed young people who are size 0 with faux boops that are huge
this is sick, sick, sick!!!!
Can wait to see that generation, with their back, bone and over all health problems
I should live so long</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am furious<br />
When is someone going to do something about this<br />
The average woman is a size 14 I am told and that looks very appealing on most women<br />
I am a size 8-10 and I thought I look great and yet there are people out there who think i am fat<br />
This is awful<br />
Growing up I average model was the &#8220;perfect size 8&#8243; now even that is fat<br />
So now we have a lot of nasty over sexed young people who are size 0 with faux boops that are huge<br />
this is sick, sick, sick!!!!<br />
Can wait to see that generation, with their back, bone and over all health problems<br />
I should live so long</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://www.copywritingmaven.com/2008/01/hellbound-when-did-size-12-become-an-extra-large/comment-page-1/#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure about men&#039;s clothing - except for what my husband wears. He&#039;s 6&#039;1&quot; and very slim. He HAS to buy large shirts so that they are long enough (men in belly shirts? ewwwwuuuuu). That means that his shirts are too wide and billow about him like a small tent. 

It seems to be assumed, with men, that if you are tall you are also very fat. And some chain stores, Wal-Mart for example, cater to the... plus sized male... shall we say. 

You know how hard it is to find a 30/34 or 32/34 in pants? It can be very difficult! Generally the pants have the reverse numbers - 34/30! Short and thick in the middle! It&#039;s very frustrating for him to find pants. He gets whatever size will fit, and hopes the color isn&#039;t too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about men&#8217;s clothing &#8211; except for what my husband wears. He&#8217;s 6&#8242;1&#8243; and very slim. He HAS to buy large shirts so that they are long enough (men in belly shirts? ewwwwuuuuu). That means that his shirts are too wide and billow about him like a small tent. </p>
<p>It seems to be assumed, with men, that if you are tall you are also very fat. And some chain stores, Wal-Mart for example, cater to the&#8230; plus sized male&#8230; shall we say. </p>
<p>You know how hard it is to find a 30/34 or 32/34 in pants? It can be very difficult! Generally the pants have the reverse numbers &#8211; 34/30! Short and thick in the middle! It&#8217;s very frustrating for him to find pants. He gets whatever size will fit, and hopes the color isn&#8217;t too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Rieck</title>
		<link>http://www.copywritingmaven.com/2008/01/hellbound-when-did-size-12-become-an-extra-large/comment-page-1/#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Rieck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tara is right. While at a conference in KY a few months ago, I talked to a woman who used to work in the clothing business and she said the sizes are meaningless...nothing is standardized. 

But while some clothing sizes up to let people think they&#039;re smaller than they are, other clothing sizes down. Used to be I&#039;d fit into a small or medium in virtually any shirt. But now I have to buy large. And NO I haven&#039;t gotten bigger. I&#039;ve always assumed that with men, they do this on purpose to make you think you&#039;re larger. Maybe Tara could confirm that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tara is right. While at a conference in KY a few months ago, I talked to a woman who used to work in the clothing business and she said the sizes are meaningless&#8230;nothing is standardized. </p>
<p>But while some clothing sizes up to let people think they&#8217;re smaller than they are, other clothing sizes down. Used to be I&#8217;d fit into a small or medium in virtually any shirt. But now I have to buy large. And NO I haven&#8217;t gotten bigger. I&#8217;ve always assumed that with men, they do this on purpose to make you think you&#8217;re larger. Maybe Tara could confirm that.</p>
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		<title>By: David Leland</title>
		<link>http://www.copywritingmaven.com/2008/01/hellbound-when-did-size-12-become-an-extra-large/comment-page-1/#comment-1065</link>
		<dc:creator>David Leland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your posting&#039;s reinforces my experience that human kind is not any closer to recognizing that we are all the same inside...

As a vertically challenged male (5&#039;5&quot;), you can imagine my astonishment when I&#039;m watching an NBA game and the play &quot;small ball.&quot; That means guys a mere 6&#039;10&quot; are running up and down the court...

I could go on and on....:-)

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your posting&#8217;s reinforces my experience that human kind is not any closer to recognizing that we are all the same inside&#8230;</p>
<p>As a vertically challenged male (5&#8242;5&#8243;), you can imagine my astonishment when I&#8217;m watching an NBA game and the play &#8220;small ball.&#8221; That means guys a mere 6&#8242;10&#8243; are running up and down the court&#8230;</p>
<p>I could go on and on&#8230;.:-)</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Rosenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.copywritingmaven.com/2008/01/hellbound-when-did-size-12-become-an-extra-large/comment-page-1/#comment-1063</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberta Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tara - the better women&#039;s clothing lines traditionally always offered sizes that, let&#039;s say, were generous and flattering. 

I agree, too, that clothing sizes in general have never been properly standardized. I worked for a women&#039;s clothing manufacturer for about a year. They had 3 lines and 3 clothing models they used - one each for juniors, misses, and women&#039;s - and size 8 was the ideal baseline. I believe, someone correct me, that the baseline today is a 6.

To answer your question - women can support manufacturers and retailers who support them. The Dove soap/beauty company is a great case in point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tara &#8211; the better women&#8217;s clothing lines traditionally always offered sizes that, let&#8217;s say, were generous and flattering. </p>
<p>I agree, too, that clothing sizes in general have never been properly standardized. I worked for a women&#8217;s clothing manufacturer for about a year. They had 3 lines and 3 clothing models they used &#8211; one each for juniors, misses, and women&#8217;s &#8211; and size 8 was the ideal baseline. I believe, someone correct me, that the baseline today is a 6.</p>
<p>To answer your question &#8211; women can support manufacturers and retailers who support them. The Dove soap/beauty company is a great case in point.</p>
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